What we do know is that Gohan has a power level in his head that is his potential full power. How much does Gohan's 'boost' actually give him? Super Perfect Cell has an electrical aura, much like the one Super Saiyan 2's have. It came down to the kamehameha struggle as a last effort. He stated he was at half power after this. Hell, the fact that he even held Cell out for that long, shows that half of Gohan's strength was almost as much as Cell going all out. Gohan is still quite a bit stronger than Super Perfect Cell. Ssj2 goku plus seven years of training(we all know how hard goku trains) would be a stomp. A yellow aura means SSJ and lightning Sparks mean SSJ2. If Cell was almost equal he should have overpowered Gohan in an instant. Vegeta1000 8 months ago #1. Who wins? He must win in a direct battle. It may not display this or other websites correctly. This boost is what pushed him to his new level, in this case Super Perfect Cell. Half power Gohan was absolutely nothing to a Cell who wasn't even serious. 'Super' Perfect Cell is not 2 and a half times weaker than Gohan. I'm going to go against the grain and say...I really don't think so. Gohan would have to finish Cell off quickly before fatigue sets in to have a chance. 1 - Gohan thinks he knows how powerful he is and I'd say that's pretty reliable but does not account for the 'boost' since he doesn't seem to really have a lot of belief in his ability to unlocks it. PFM18 , Apr 24, 2019 “Normal” Perfect Cell fought to a near standstill with SSJ Goku, with a bit of an upper hand. Gohan didn't bother defending against the attack. Goku possibly not comparing Dabura to a specific power level of Cell. Dragon ball tends to hint at ability through aura alot and an aura's details can tell alot about a character or a form. The NEW base form for Goku was even with Frieza's new Final Form. As for the PLs, I do indeed have a distinctive list for everyone, including the DB Super fighters (though most are assumptions). His lack of experience, his personality, and the fact that Cell has many ways to survive give him a distinct advantage. I feel Gohan wasn't ready to actually kill. ac_98521 Mar 21, 2011 #1 Location: Cell games arena after it got blown up Mindset:Bloodlusted Restrictions: Cell can't blow himself up. Gohan is still quite a bit stronger than Super Perfect Cell. So I'm researching and calculating the exact power levels (and feats) of every Dragon Ball Z character but a particularly critical match-up has become a very difficult one to answer. I think people get overhyped about the allusions to his weakening since the Cell games. In truth, while Gohan did indeed defeat Cell in the story, there were many factors at play. However, I don't think he had enough power that he would have been able to beat Cell given Cell's skills and regeneration making him a monster when power levels are close. Again just my interpretation here but half health Gohan, from a ki perspective, is just a little bit below Super Perfect Cell. If it was more than half his original power again and that's what it took to beat SPC - we can predict that full health Gohan may not have a chance against SPC without others around to push him into unlock-mode. I'm constantly trying to improve this list, looking for more accurate ways to determine the ranges. SSJ2 Teen Gohan vs Super Perfect Cell; User Info: Vegeta1000. The only Zenkai increase we have seen that would rival SPC's apparent Zenkai increase would be Goku's after the fight with Ginyu. Freeza's Death Beam is a good comparison but that in and of itself is a pretty low tier attack used purely for executions and is utter garbage against an opponent in a remotely similar league(see Goku easily deflecting a barrage of them). My Initial Conclusion: While there is plenty of evidence (and perhaps even a majority) suggesting Cell was stronger than Gohan at this point, I still believe Gohan was stronger simply because he had the strength to destroy Cell despite both his injury and his trauma. The only thing I wonder is if Gohan was actually at half power considering how much power Goku was able to coach out of him, but you make a solid point. Ssj2 Gohan vs Ultra Perfect Cell Thread starter Thdyingbreed; Start date Mar 21, 2011; Thdyingbreed Well-Known Member. Was it only possible because Vegeta distracted him? He EFFORTLESSLY beat perfect cell, and while it might have been closer, I still think Gohan takes it pretty damn handily, which, IMO, is why Toriyama had to use that plot device to get rid of one of Gohans arms, another stomp would have been boring as fuck. As for Cell's composure and personality, I do agree that Cell most certainly wanted to break Gohan's spirit, as was his cruel nature. I personally favor Gohan as having more power than Cell given all of Goku's statements seeming to favor that as well as Gohan lamenting that he wanted to tear Cell to pieces. SS2 Gohan, while injured and fresh from Goku's death, had the power to completely destroy Cell while he was taken off guard. Assuming there's no significant increase in Goku's base form until Super, we use this as the base. While Gohan just intercepted a blast that would have killed Vegeta. Cell had both his arms and couldn't overwhelm Gohan right away and the got obliterated. Since SSj2's accepted multiplier is 2x SSj, both SSj2 Goku and Majin Vegeta could potentially be far greater than SSj2 Kid Gohan's level with a SSj form equal to Perfect Cell. Ssj2 is an 100x boost so simple math would put cell above Gohan plus the zenkai he got from blowing himself up. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Consider the following scenario: Gohan has just taken a senzu bean to restore all of his stamina, but Cell has returned in his Super Perfect form. The fact his arm got injured just made Gohan think he was down to half of his power due to his special confidence problems. Add to Wishlist + VKH – Freeza 1st Form $ 269.00 -37%. Adjust for transformation from first form and assuming at BARE minimum First Form Frieza is as strong as Tagoma, we can assume this level of power is similar to Ultimate Gohan. He messed up with 2 points though. This is certainly possible. It's very distinctive that Cell's aura changed to a similar one to SS2 in his Super Perfect Form. So in a fight it might tip in his favor given all the possibilities of victory. Super Saiyan 2 Goku was stronger than Super Saiyan 2 Cell Games Gohan. Goku increased by several million PL during that Zenkai. The categories are mostly separated based on alternate calculations using the 5 ways to calculate Gotenks I mentioned above: Blank means equal to SS3, the bare minimum. 31.34% (21 votes) 21. This is Gohan from the Cell … Once he realized even his new power was not enough, he'd IT to somewhere else on the planet and blow it up. There are no others around, so there is nothing for Cell to exploit to attain victory. And I'm not 100% sure Cell would have put up a fight if half of Gohan's power wasn't missing along with his arm. Can Gohan still defeat Cell? And everything with SPC assumes that Piccolo is slightly weaker. If you'd like to see more, I actually have a video detailing the entire process for determining how strong Super Saiyan God is, it's probably easier then me just typing it all out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c15778Vv0Bg. Join Community. What evidence do you have that it should have been even easier? Before, Cell stood no chance obviously. Was Gohan truly at a lower level of power thanks to this injury? Then for Super Saiyan Blue I will be assuming the lowest possible multiplier, x2. SPC got this. Seen it tons of times and I feel like that was Goku's big goal in the hyperbolic time chamber - teach Gohan to actually use that since it was such a huge well of power. Gohan was injured prior to their match-up after trying to save Vegeta. + refers to Goten plus Trunks. I just don't think he would have the fortitude to do that and with nothing else pushing him he never would. Considering all of this, the true and honest match-up shall begin! Then when Raditz was about to finish off Goku and Piccolo was injured, similar scenario as to the last moments of SPC, Radditz read off rage-Gohan's power level as 1370 and climbing. Mystic Gohan was about 50% stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks. But either way, yes, Gohan was certainly underestimating that blast and paid the price for it. This makes the most sense to me, since something like this would explain how a Full Power Perfect Cell(12) would get wrecked by SS2 Gohan(20). The scouter read Gohan with a 710 power level. Gohan Super Saiyan 2 VS Cell. If Gohan was stronger, it's not by much. It's highly suggested that Gohan might have lost had Vegeta not distracted Cell. Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks was 8 times stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku. Since he was at half strength was it so much that it put him over his power level at full health? We can assume that his 100% full health would be enough, but only by a little bit but Gohan still isn't mentally prepared to straight up kill someone yet. Cell also displayed a ssj1 aura earlier in the show as well. ss2 teen gohan is a good deal stronger than ss2 adult gohan of the buu arc. However in the latest Dragon Ball Super episode (hopefully there are no spoilers if you watch it) Frieza used it as his attack of choice when facing off in a beam struggle versus Aniliza (the Universe 3 Fusion). All of the rights and content belong to Funimation,Toei Animation, Fuji TV, Arkira Toriyama, and ABGroup. Not to mention any further zenkais or failed destructions would make Cell unstoppable. Dabura fought eveny however he still tought he could win. You guys missed the part where I said holding his own? He was beating him easily. He was at 50% when he overpowered Cell. Gohan didn't hold out long at all and Cell was toying with him the whole time. SSJ2 Kid Gohan: 120 Super Perfect Cell: 100 SSJ2 Pre-Majin Vegeta: 100 SSJ2 Teen Gohan: 78 SSJ Goku: 62.5 FP Perfect Cell: 50 SSJ Pre-Majin Vegeta: 50 Dabura: 45 SSJ Kid Gohan: 40 SSJ Teen Gohan: 39 Reason I put Gohan's final rage boost so high is because he managed to Kill SPC after Battle Damage reduced his Power by 50% and with only 1 hand. Gohan also seemed to be a bit fatigued giving the edge to dabura and thus cell. If Gohan was truly at half strength when doing the beam struggle, this would suggest in a fair fight he'd have no trouble. Keeping in mind the feat of 'lack of fatigue' Cell has - that does make it difficult to tell his effort level but I feel like it is safe to assume at that point he was genuinely wanting to kill Gohan and was putting in as much effort as it would take...which wasn't enough as we know. 3.9K views. However, Gohan was injured and he was holding back, per Goku. Any additions or things I missed? You are indeed where you belong. re: Which power gap was bigger, SSJ2 Gohan vs. Previously we saw a 2x power multiplier when Gohan raged and unlocked his temporary boost. While Gohan may have the power in edge, his personality and lack of experience are a serious disadvantage that would tip the battle against him. A necessary plot device to make the fight interesting as otherwise it would be a one-sided affair. Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan vs. Super Perfect Cell (True Match-Up) Serious So I'm researching and calculating the exact power levels (and feats) of every Dragon Ball Z character but a particularly critical match-up has become a very difficult one to answer. S+ refers to SS Goten + SS Trunks. I also am a firm believer of teen gohan=kid gohan minus the rage boost I have dabura and cell as equals or in the same tier. So we really need to know how much the boost was. I could probably KO prime Mike Tyson if he was jumping on someone to protect them while I punched him. Then his friends got blown away, he was the last stand of protecting the Earth, and Goku was yelling at him that he NEEDED to get that power out. Gohan may have had the power to destroy him, but was he truly stronger? Cell mid diffs. The only time we actually have a legitimate measurement was wayyyy back to when Raditz visited Earth. With both arms, Gohan is way stronger than Cell. Who would win in this fight? Find out how strong Piccolo, Goten and Trunks, and Super Buu are together and you have your answer. Shouldn't have even have been a contest. In Stock . Take a second to look at our. Super Buu himself is comparable to SS3 Gotenks, as they were practically even. I also believe that while the attack meant to kill Vegeta LOOKED casual, it was a very devastating blow. And yes, I love the connection to the auras. Gohan was losing the beam struggle tho, and Cell was still holding back his own power. Though I think arrogance also played a role. And if this theoretical battle happens on Earth he's going to try and keep his power level lower to not endanger the planet. In any case, here are the current power levels and multipliers I have for each of Goku's current forms and possible ranges. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c15778Vv0Bg. Here is the evidence (from the anime and manga) to consider in this fight: SS2 Gohan was certainly stronger than Perfect Cell, this is unquestioned. Gohan believes he's at half power. When Cell came back stronger, he also came back at 100% energy/stamina. I would cautiously suggest Cell's win here. So, Equal to Low End: x24 (x9,600) Using Dragonball GT Guide High End: x96 (x38,400), Regardless of which ones you use, you create a range for the potential of Gotenks. People forget he was incredibly weakened with one arm and still pushed back a 100% SPC. This is certainly possible. I believe SSJ2 Teen Gohan is significantly weaker than SSJ2 Kid Gohan and he was still stronger than Dabura who only had a slight advantage because he used magic and Gohan was rusty. 546 Anime Fans. Full Power SS1 Gohan - 10. Let's also consider that Gohan has this untapped amount of power that he's always never been able to use at will. JavaScript is disabled. You then transfer this to each fighter being compared and then apply necessary multipliers. I submit that Gohan simply had more power available to him, though they were almost completely even. If he had been fighting with that level of strength from the beginning and wasn't held back at all, I think it was very possible that Gohan could have won a true fight. While Gohan most likely has the edge in power, this alone does not guarantee his victory. Goku vs Cell had alot more going on and was honestly less one-sided atleast compared to SSJ2 Gohan vs Perfect Cell. It's not a fight but it is a story. We know him going all out would not have endangered the planet since we've seen much higher power levels fighting on Earth but that's not really worth discussion here. This gives us an assumption of 'boosted' half-health Gohan as a bit less than full health Gohan or as much as full health Gohan at best. Gohan was able to hold in a beam struggle with Cell with one arm for a long time. The terms are: BoG(Battle of Gods), ResF(Resurrection F), GE (God Essence), SPC (Super Perfect Cell). If Goku knows or suspects a 2x boost is within Gohan's ability it is pretty easy to see why he was so confident in Gohan taking down Cell. 2 - He is consciously holding back and worried about the planet and those around him. There are 5 possible avenues for Gotenks strength: Equal to Super Saiyan 3: x400 Equal to Goten Plus Trunks Base Form: x2 (x800 in SS3) Equal to SS Goten Plus SS Trunks: x100 (x40,000 in SS3) Using Dragonball GT Guide on Gogeta, Fusion Dance is dozens of times stronger. I have a feeling this is gonna turn into another Cell vs Dabura war, but that's not my intention. If … Goku believes he is holding back so as to not destroy the planet, as well. The beam struggle ends up being the best way to win. SSJ2 Gohan DID use his full power against Cell. Was he holding back? - Results (67 votes) SSJ2 Teen Gohan . Now we'll look at Gohan at half health. Indeed it does. I won't go into the details, but ultimately this is why I need to know where Super Perfect Cell falls. Second is that Gohan had never actually killed an opponent and wasn't battle hardened. He boasts his perfection even after noticing that others rival him. My big question has always been how much power did that unlock-able boost actually give him? SSJ2 Gohan destroyed “normal” Perfect Cell, so in conclusion, Super Perfect Cell is significantly stronger. This. 0. No, Vegeta stated that his Ki wasn't as strong as when he faced Cell. The fact that Gohan was 50% and managed to hold his own and eventually overpower Cell with his full power makes me think a fully powered Gohan would have beaten Cell comfortably. So we know Gohan at full health was holding back to protect the planet. I always believed Dabura's power was somewhat close to Super Perfect Cell, but not as strong. The attack that was used to kill Vegeta but was intercepted by Gohan looked casual but was enough to injured Gohan severely. My reasoning would probably be because of their auras. Cell's skills and regeneration made him a terrifying opponent to put down. Gohan beat him when he was already injured. Gohan mops the floor with Cell. Okay, but a single pretty casual attack - it was only meant to kill Vegeta - from SPC was able to put Gohan in that state. Additionally, I believe SPC was incredibly confident (as always) and basking in his new found power. We never saw Gohan's full power at this time so we don't have a good gauge but this does tell us a couple things. Alrighty - we've made some assumptions and it's time to go to the conclusion they lead to. ©BIRD STUDIO/SHUEISHA, TOEI ANIMATION. Quantity. Been a while since I've watched/read that arc but reading through a lot of the replies - I have to agree that SSJ2 Gohan was more powerful than Super Perfect Cell. Dangit - now I have to look stuff up to figure out this next part. Super Saiyan 3 Goku was 4 times that. ... DJF – Battle Wounded Son Goku vs Freeza $ 399.00 $ 285.00. I DON'T OWN ANY OF THIS CONTENT. Half-health Gohan was slightly less powerful than SPC at least as far as Ki goes but enough to not get instantly vaporized. Welcome to the forums! Or was it somewhere in between? If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. Edit: On another note, I'd love to see your notes on PLs throughout the series up until this point. This poll is now closed. Goku vs Cell isn't really telling us anything. 6:10 -1st Cut Scene 16:45 -2nd Cut Scene 24:41 -3rd Cut Scene 36:06 -4th Cut Scene SSJ2 Teen Gohan vs Super Perfect Cell Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. SSJ2 Gohan was way stronger than Perfect Cell and somewhat stronger than Super Perfect Cell which is basically Cell SSJ2. After gaining a huge boost, returning from the dead and injuring Gohan, Cell's confidence must have been at an all time high. Personally, I believe that an SS2 Goku would beat Perfect Cell after a good fight, but he would lose to Super Perfect Cell. First is that Gohan couldn't unlock that bonus boost at will. With DBZ power levels liking even multipliers for the most part, let's call it a 2x boost. "So I'm researching and calculating the exact power levels (and feats) of every Dragon Ball Z character". I think Goku actually thought that he had taught Gohan to unleash it and that was why he was so eager to just let Gohan take care of it. He was losing to Cell, until Vegeta hit him while in a very vulnerable position. Or does he loose after 7 years of peace? Perfect Cell or Ultimate Gohan vs. Super Buu? It changes how strong Piccolo is measured. SSG Goku BoG_____62,972_____188,915,094,340, SSG Goku BoG+_____108,255_____324,764,150,943, SSG Goku BoG S+_____4,545,991_____13,637,971,698,113, SSG Goku BoG x24_____1,104,481_____3,313,443,396,226, SSG Goku BoG x96_____4,364,858_____13,094,575,471,698, SSG Goku BoG SPC_____62,893_____188,679,245,283, SSG Goku BoG SPC+_____108,176_____324,528,301,887, SSG Goku BoG SPC S+_____4,545,912_____13,637,735,849,057, SSG Goku BoG SPC x24_____1,104,403_____3,313,207,547,170, SSG Goku BoG SPC x96_____4,364,780_____13,094,339,622,642, SSB Goku ResF Low_____7,930,869,527_____23,792,608,579,565,700, SSB Goku ResF+ Low_____23,438,167,497_____70,314,502,491,990,000, SSB Goku ResF S+ Low_____41,332,060,453,008_____123,996,181,359,025,000,000, SSB Goku ResF x24 Low_____2,439,757,142,221_____7,319,271,426,664,300,000, SSB Goku ResF x96 Low_____38,103,979,285,333_____114,311,937,855,999,000,000, SSB Goku ResF SPC Low_____7,911,079,467_____23,733,238,400,379,700, SSB Goku ResF SPC+ Low_____23,404,137,495_____70,212,412,483,683,400, SSB Goku ResF SPC S+ Low_____41,330,630,908,588_____123,991,892,725,762,000,000, SSB Goku ResF SPC x24 Low_____2,439,409,833,472_____7,318,229,500,415,330,000, SSB Goku ResF SPC x96 Low_____38,102,606,700,684_____114,307,820,102,053,000,000. Lastly we have seen cell go all out in earlier fights and his composure when he goes all out is not the same as his rematch with Gohan. The list is HUGE and there's a lot of terminology, so I will only give a short snippet of what I have, just everything going up to the battle with Golden Frieza. So, determine all the possible answers for Gotenks power and you have your answer. Gohan became much weaker as stated officially in the manga. VKH – SSJ2 Gohan vs Perfect Cell $ 339.00. I've watched this a ton, and Gohan's power was basically divided in two, since he could only use one arm, and he still managed to win (albeit with a BIT of help). Goku later convinced him that he wasn't really down to 50% and only thought he was, which made SSJ2 Gohan put his full power (what he was using when he was beating … There are no other senzu beans and Gohan has no fatigue or injuries. As Tagoma was compared to Ultimate Gohan, we then must determine his strength via Buuiccolo, the strongest fighter Gohan was definitely stronger than. You and Mike Tyson are in the same league by DBZ standards. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! The Z-fighters have always been incredibly accurate about their gauges of energy levels. In any case, hopefully you'll enjoy it. In the anime this is explored further of course, but in the manga it's far too short to know for sure. Gohan seems to value his life less than his family and friends and as a result I don't feel like he would ever have the opportunity to unlock his rage and get the boost effect. Though it was channeled attack, I think this is proof enough that even small attacks can be very powerful. I refuse to believe Half-power Gohan>Super Perfect Cell, especially when Cell was able to damage Gohan as much as he did when Gohan was at FP, and SSJ2 is supposed to be only a 2x multiplier itself. This is the kind of stuff I analyze all the time and have a huge list. I understand your point, but the way i see it - Gohan wasn't in his best position to defend Vegeta (thus more vulnerable). So while he was likely not using his full power at first, I think he was by the end given how stressed out the battle became. SSJ2 Gohan is fast but prone to standing around letting Cell act. Full health Gohan, injured half health Gohan, and injured half health Gohan + "boost"...that's just what I've always called it in any of the cases where Goku or some other action forces Gohan to go above his own perceived power. This suggest Super Perfect Cell certainly had the power to injure him. If you have any questions, let me know. The attack Cell used was definitely not a particularly powerful one. Full Power Perfect Cell - 12. If Gohan was only ASSUMING he was at half strength and simply had to bring out his true power, this makes him more even with Cell. He was also distraught from having Goku (and Trunks) die. Similar to Frieza's laser beam, this puts doubt that this attack was in fact a casual blast. Cell could easily IT somewhere else quickly and destroy the planet, killing Gohan. No other aura in dbz has lightning besides ssj2 and ssj3. Although I think the zenkai you mentioned is what pushed Cell to the SS2 limit, not that he attained SS2 and then managed to get an additional zenkai. Time Stamps below to skip in game fights. I think Cell attained ssj2 when he came back due to his aura. So by that logic a hypothetical ssj2 goku during cell games would also beat ssj2 teen gohan. IMO Yes. These are easy enough to find and calculate. Goku was able to bring out more power out of Gohan because he was holding back, either because he was trying to protect the planet or because he was not enraged. Using all of that - would a full health Gohan beat SPC in a 1v1 with nobody else around? Only 2 left in stock. And good point on the Death Beam, it didn't focus Goku in the slightest when he tanked it in their fight. x24 refers to the low range of the GT calculation and 96x to the high range. When Cell came back stronger, he also came back at 100% energy/stamina. gohan loses high difficulty. Super Perfect Cell. We saw him holding ground at what looked like full exertion against SPC who was genuinely putting in full effort. I believe Gohan was stronger than SPC. He had control of the struggle, but also had to amp himself several times to match Gohan. Indeed, I agree with this assessment. It was only because of SPC's arrogance that he put himself into a position where he could be entirely destroyed. Gohan raged with Goku's help and boosted to defeat SPC - I feel like it is reasonable to assume a 2x power boost from his current power level which was probably lower than half as he was injured as well as fatigued since when he claimed to be at about half his total power. That being said, even a casual blast could do a lot if Gohan was arrogant enough to think he could just tank it or outspeed it. Teen Gohan SSJ2 Vs Perfect Cell. Film©1989 TOEI ANIMATION CO., LTD. All Rights Reserved. I mainly use the xBase Form unit as it makes things easier to track, but determining power level from them is easy enough so I track those too. I DO NOT OWN DRAGONBALL. But I'll disagree that he would defeat Cell in the prompt. That's very well thought out. The killing blow, so to speak, wasn't so much that it made finishing Cell child's play but was enough to tip the balance and obliterate him completely. I see no reason to doubt them in this regard. This shows that at the very least, he was in the same ball-park as Gohan's strength. Then he blew himself up and returned, gaining a zenkai boost. What are your thoughts on this fight? Gohan, fully healed and with both arms still stomps Super Perfect Cell imo, the gap is just too big imo. A drop in the bucket at the SSJ2 stage. To put things into perspective, I'll only give a short list for Goku's power levels and a snapshot of how I got them. Remember, Cell has Saiyan DNA which allows him to go SSJ. SSJ2 Gohan DID defeat Super Perfect Cell with his full power. The way I see it is the Cell is probably somewhat stronger than Gohan at their best. Press J to jump to the feed. We haven't got many other instances(if any) of characters getting hit while in a very vulnerable position. However, in regards to who would win in a straight fight, I believe SPC would actually end up winning. A good point. If they were almost equal a one-armed Cell should have been able to overpower a one-armed critically injured Gohan like nothing. Cell was both serious and not serious while fighting Gohan in his beam struggle. It's one thing to want to kill your opponent but another thing entirely to ACTUALLY be ready to kill. Goku's own comment about Gohan having the potential to surpass all of them present with the right motivation makes me feel that 25th Budokai Gohan probably cannot be too weak (like, I'd be surprised if he was only half as strong as his Cell Games self), which makes it harder to determine... Gohan would still be able to defeat Cell. I enjoy the challenge though. SSJ2 Gohan is about 2–3 times stronger than SSJ Goku at the time. Not much though or he wouldn't have held up as well in the beam struggle. Otherwise, Gohan's first Kamehameha would've killed Cell. Putting into sheer power alone, Gohan would have to be significantly stronger in order to make it an easy fight, but given how close the battle was when he was injured, the gap is certainly far closer than we think. So you've got a few different phases of Gohan worth talking about in this fight. 68.66% (46 votes) 46. You must log in or register to reply here. Vegeta’s blast only distracted Cell enough for Gohan to gain his confidence and get some momentum going. cell wins. A beam struggle was really the best way to win as it negates all skill in favor of a contest of brute force, which Gohan would have a slight advantage in. Gohan was emotionally wrecked after Goku's sacrifice, as he believed he was responsible. All in all, Mystic Gohan is atleast 40 times stronger than Cell Games Gohan I think he wished to break Gohan's spirit by beating him while not at full strength, in my opinion cell was probably going >50 but <75 when Gohan put the last of his energy into a Kamehameha. Certainly underestimating that blast and paid the price for it 's after the fight join our discussions, your. This alone does not guarantee his victory, but was intercepted by Gohan looked casual, it 's perfect cell vs ssj2 gohan! Have lost had Vegeta not distracted Cell enough for Gohan to gain his confidence get! 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